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Post by nerijusbielskis on Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:08 am

can anyone explain the situation between BR and die gailler alliance?

i heard about peace negotiations but they are taking our rv so looks like they dont want peace. and we dont get any new targets to attack

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Re: DIE GAILLER????

Post by marcs on Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:36 am

Hey & hi neri,

I switch between and Narcotic and Burgräuber the leader of Die Gallier to move forward for any peace negotiations because it seens that nobody of this alliance is able to speak english...
Yesterday evening I tried to talk with Burgräuber and i am a little pissed off about him and his behavior [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]. He's ineloquent and it seems not that he wants peace. Today just send him a messages again. And i've informed Narcotic about my results and the talks.
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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:13 pm

obviously they don't want peace, this kind of alliances must be destroyed once we began a war, it has been a mistake to stop the attacks over them, but we must respect Narcotic's orders.

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Post by nerijusbielskis on Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:34 am

3 players from die gallier are attacking my RV. and i dont take any rv from them. they dont want peace with us

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Post by Narcotic on Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:51 am

Good evening all

Here is a brief summary from marcs conference in skype last night with the Die Gallier leadership.

- They claim that there are still attacks from us (BR V, VII & fire)
- They say that they shouldnt stop their attacks if we do not have our wings under control.
- They said that we work together with the BBoys and that the war is not balanced
- They haven't attacked us (our castles) yet
- They said that they had tried to get peace 4 weeks ago (i think that was when they become independent/ before the war) thus they think that they have made the first step 4 weeks ago and we should stop first our attacks
- They said that they are not HW2 but rather Die Gallier
- They want to beindependent: return to the roots of the game with no dictatorship of large families etc.

I cant say i disagree with all of the above points, especially independence and return to roots of game etc.

There is for sure a problem in communication since there is stubborness over who should stop first or started first.

They justify their actions cause there are supposed attacks from the aboved divisions of Black Rose. If that's true i would like to ask you to cease fire until this case is completed one way or another.

They also justify their actions when they were HW2 with their name change.
This alliance has been a trouble maker for too long and i am not sure if a war can put them actually in place. I will give marcus one more go on them to see if this can be discussed in a peacefull way under the condition that they will stop bothering us either with attacks or stealing Rv's.

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Post by marcs on Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:31 pm

Hi all,

I have to make some additions:

- They would also accept occasionally fights man against man for honor, fun and glory or even alliance against alliance with the help of the whole family (like as small contests or something like that)
- And they will try to get their RVs back too which they lost ...

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Post by Sergiu on Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:40 pm

understood marcs,i've told my family to stop the attacks on them for now!

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Post by nerijusbielskis on Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:51 pm

i dont understand why we offering them a peace after they were insulting us.
all they can do is open gates Very Happy and now they giving orders to us? we will give back rv for them? Question

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Post by AbooLan on Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:55 pm

but today we have got over 20 attacks from die gallier and they take rv from us. are we still want cease attacks on them?they are start attacks first and they should ask to peace first..

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Post by marcs on Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:36 am

I don't know who started first. I think you can take back your RVs...

Schoni had asked me for another a skype meeting and i should translate between her and Narcotic but I also work a lot with the google translator and others. I have said a simultaneous translation would be difficult for me and Schoni want to look for someone else to do it.

I don't know whether she has established contact to Narcoti yet...

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Post by Narcotic on Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:01 am

She hasnt contacted me yet, they have been attacking us and other divisions as well to capture Rv's since they lost a lot during our war they think that its fair to get them back. I suggest you defend your villages and capture them back but not attack them. I am still waiting for them to contact me or marcs or whoever they want to end this.

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Post by nerijusbielskis on Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:26 am

yeah 1 player said that they will take back rv from us which they lost at war.
but... i dont take any rv from them and now they stolen 5 from me in sand. and he said that he dont care about it...

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Post by marcs on Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:48 am

Hey neri,

until now there was only one negotiation and no agreement with Die Gallier (the Gauls). So, the best is to do what narctoci said...


Narcotic wrote:I suggest you defend your villages and capture them back but not attack them...

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Post by Sergiu on Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:49 am

they want peace and they attacked us in wave after wave!

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Post by Filippobergomi on Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:43 am

i dont think they want peace, they attacked me right now Twisted Evil

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Post by joe96 on Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:55 pm

Sergiu wrote:they want peace and they attacked us in wave after wave!

This is how the war was started with them when they started attacking are members villages.

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Re: DIE GAILLER????

Post by Narcotic on Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:13 pm

This is just pathetic, lets wait to see what marcs has to tell us about them after talking with schoni and we will have a meeting soon to discuss how we move on with this case.

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Post by marcs on Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:27 pm

[21.03.13 11:02:19] me: A wunderful goodmorning Andrea (schoni).... how does it looks, did you get my message yesterday? The attacks have stopped. Shall we continue with ... whatever?

[21.03.13 11:03:31] schoni: hey .......... hello, yes i got your message, and the attacks are almost stopped. we only have probs with the V and VII, but we will clear the probs by our own, I think ...... as long as no one interferes further .......... it's a 1 vs 1 thing and it should also be

[21.03.13 11:05:30] Marcus Schmitz: yes, you do now hunting on castles and not only resource villages?

[21.03.13 11:06:19] schoni: ok plain text. those who will enriches with us when we are burning and who will find no end with the attack on us, those will also get attacks.

[21.03.13 11:08:23] me: Okay, okay, if you're ready for peace please contacted Narcotic ....

[21.03.13 11:09:24] schoni: we will do ............ not worry

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Post by Sergiu on Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:51 pm

so their plan is only to attack us and Black rose VII? we stayed together as a family when we started the war with them and now its just us two ( BR V and BR VII )against them? i think if a peace treaty is takeing place its best all of us be in it..

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Post by marcs on Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:08 am

Hey & Hello Sergiu,

we are all a little bit confused. Certainly we don't abandon you or BR V or VII. They should do the next step ... if they don't contact us tomorrow or the day after ... we should do something/ anything.
Maybe it is a never ending story...

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Post by Sergiu on Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:19 am

hehe thank you friend for the quick reply on this..well i hope all will be ok:)

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Post by marcs on Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:04 am

Message from Hal9000 (B~R~RAVENS):

Hal9000 wrote:Hello friend.

I have just read the report of your most recent talks with Die Gallier and I am afraid that they are being selective in their presentation of the facts. I cannot speak for BRVII but we in V ( now Ravens ) only learned about the ceasefire and negotiations on Sunday last and we immediately stopped all attacks pending further instructions from the BR leadership. In spite of this we have endured mass attacks on our leader and 2 other members on Tues night/ Weds morning ( UK time ) , to which we have not yet retaiated. Now it seems that Die Gallier seem to want to make seperate deals with the different wings of BR whilst arrogating to themselves the right to continue to attack us in BR Ravens. We have always been loyal to BR and have actively contributed to every campaign , even when the family was in some turmoil during thee war with TRP. at that time TRP offered us immunity from attack if we would only quit BR but we refused that offer and were severely attacked as a consequence. Therefore, I must plead with you to urgently to resist any deal which leaves us and possibly VII hung out to dry while the rest of BR makes peace with Die Gallier.
Thank you friend for taking the time to read this message.

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Post by Filippobergomi on Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:03 am

On this night we have suffered massive attacks too ....

What die Galliers say about us are lies we stopped attacks when in the forum we have been requested to do so

they are trying to divide us with their lies and I hope that none of us fall into their ridiculous trap

We attacked die Galliers because the family requests to do so and we did

we are obedient soldiers, we do our duty always with courage and heart for our family

  lies will never tarnish our honor, our respect for the whole family black rose, we are faithful and respectable

I have no more to add

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Post by Narcotic on Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:17 am

Narcotic: Good morning to you Schoni, i have read your conversation with Marcs and i want to say a few things.
I dont know why you keep attacking BR divisions, it seems like you have unfinished business or something but we have made clear to you that we wished the war to end and tried many times to contact you regarding that, to end it.
I would like to ask you a clear question and i want a clear answer as well, do you want this war to end or not? We cant accept attacking our divisions, BR is a family and it will fight as a family, we have made several steps to end it and i would like to hear one clear answer from you now.

Schoni: wenn ihr eine familie seid, warum geben die BR V und VII keine ruhe??? wir werden uns nicht ständig angreifen lassen und NUR verteidigen. das haben wir genau 5 tage gemacht!!! ich denke, auch sie haben eine lektion verdient. wenn du doch einen waffenstillstand angeordnet hast, dann frage ich mich nun, warum dann immer noch Teile von euch angreifen?? was sollen wir deiner meinung nach tun? uns überfallen lassen, immer und immer wieder???uns abbrennen lassen? nicht verteidigen? überlege bitte, ob du so spielen würdest??? wir setzen und mit denen 1:1 auseinander, ich denke das ist fair, oder?
if you are a family, why the class V and VII not calm? We will not let ourselves be constantly attacking and defending ONLY. we did just 5 days! I think they also deserve a lesson. if you've got arranged a truce, I wonder now why you still attack parts of you? what we should do to your opinion? let us fall over, over and over again? let us burn? not defend? please consider whether you would play as? we use and with whom 1:1 apart, I think that's fair, right?

Narcotic: Schoni i have given a certain order that all attacks are ceased to you since the day you messaged me that you negotiated truce with Bad Boys and asked me to do the same. I respected what you asked for, we fought for a while and thought it was time to end it since you asked it for. And since then we never attacked you back, but there were attacks from you to rv's and to players. Now the situation is that i have 2 divisions you attacked and as family leader i cannot accept it. But i will say it once more, if you wish to stop all this now, it will stop. There will be no more fighting no more battles, but if you keep attacking selectively divisions/players/rv's we have no other option than to go to war again. Maybe there was a misunderstanding in communication with the two divisions that you fight now, but what's done is done, i will call it casualties of war. Are you willing to end it today, now?

Schoni: da dies unsere gesamte truppe entscheidet, kann ich dir erst heute abend bescheid geben. es sind nicht alle da und der könig ist noch arbeiten.
fakt ist eins, daß wir nur die spieler angegriffen haben, die uns die letzten tage immer wieder angriffe geschickt haben!!! ich bitte das zu bedenken und die BR VII hat unsauf die kriegsliste gesetzt, nicht wir!!! also, was soll ich von deinem wort halten? die IV und die fire und Angel haben uns ebenfalls den krieg erklärt. wie erklärst du mir das? sogar BR mutterallianz und dracula hat uns auf der liste? freidensverhandlungen sehen doch anders aus, oder?

since this determines our entire troop, I can only give modest tonight. it's not all there, and the king is still working.
factorial is one that we have just attacked the player, who sent us the last days again attacked! I ask you to consider this and the BR VII has set unsauf the war list, do not we! So, what to make of your word? the IV and the fire and Angel have also declared war. how do you explain me this? BR alliance and even mom dracula us on the list? free peace negotiations but look completely different, right?
ich sage es noch einmal, wir sind nur auf einige spieler gegangen, die es nicht lassen konnten, uns anzugreifen. wir haben im vorfeld ausschließlich uns verteidigt, aber die waren der meinung weiter zu machen. ett ist es doch wohl legitim, diesen spielern eine lektion zu erteilen, oder?
I'll say it again, we are only a few players left, who could not attack us. we have merely defended us in the run, but they were of the opinion-making continues. ett, it is surely legitimate to these players to give a lesson, right?

Narcotic: When you have to deal with some hundreds of players sometimes its hard to communicate effectively and misunderstandings can happen. I do share your point of fighting back, thats after all the purpose of a game like this but before it gets out of control i ask you to cease all attacks as we have done as well. Send NAP's to any of BR divisions you are currently on war and it will end immediatelly. Understand my point of view though that when you keep attacking players and rv's it cannot end. You have done this a lot in the past, thats why the whole war started. What i am asking you to understand is that if you dont show a good will to end it, it cannot end. I wont search for mistakes but only for a clear answer on what you want to be done further on. I will wait until you communicate with your leader and you discuss the matter with him and i will be waiting an answer from you later in the evening if possible.

Schoni: ich denke, ein anfang wäre, wenn eure divisonen uns eine NAP anfrage stellen würden. wir haben ja auch nicht die kriegserklärung geschickt. die endgültige entscheidung fällen unsere spieler zusammen.
I think that would be a start if your divisonen us a NAP would make inquiry. we have not even sent to the war policy. the final decision fell along our players.

Narcotic: Is it all about who makes the start? We didnt even bother you ever when you were repeateadly attacking us and our rv's and we kept respecting the NAP we had with HW while you didnt. We did stop the attacks although we didnt need to. But anyway. I will grant you that request but you have to respect it Schoni, all of you. Are we clear on this please?

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Post by Narcotic on Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:24 am

Heres my latest conversation with Schoni. Communication is hard since she doesnt speak english and i dont speak German. I have posted the original text in italics so that marcs can give us the exact meaning of her words. The translation was made by her not me.

From what i get from the above conversation i cant say nothing more than what we already know. Stubborn with a twisted perspective of the truth. But now its down to one thing. Either they accept peace or we fight as unit. They seem to think that they have to retaliate to the attacks of only two divisions apparently thinking that they are responsible for attacks when there was an "unofficial" cease fire. Since its hard to communicate with a lot of people and misunderstandings can happen i wont dig any more deep to that.

They ask for a NAP to be sent to them from the divisions that have declared war to them. Schoni seems to think that this would be a start. Its the final request i will accept and nothing more. I think we have done more than enough to end it in a diplomatic way and we showed good will more than we had to.

In conclusion, i would like all BR divisions that have a war status with them to send NAA to Die Gallier and wait for the final answer from Schoni or Burgauber after they discuss it with their people.

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